Is prestashop not good for big websites?

[newera]

I have heard so many good things about prestashop:simiplicity,lightweight,lots of features and so on but most of dicussion and article say "if you are looking in medium size shop prestashop is good but for enterprize level big websites,you should try something other than prestashop?"

is prestashop not good for big website which can have quater million of products?

I am trying to lauch a website which can grow up to quater million of products.

I have read in this forum,there is theoritically no limitation in number of records but what about pratical experience.
Can somebody show me very good or reputed website running in prestashop?

some question saying prestashop is buggy and difficult to upgrade,how true is it?

am i secure if i am implement prestashop to run big shopping website(kind of market)

[Bruno Leveque]

Hi,

50,000 shops are already using PrestaShop, from the smallest to the biggest ones!

PrestaShop can easily handle more than 100,000 orders / day, do you plan to sell more?

The upgrade process is very easy if you take a few minutes to read the advices and the steps to follow.

Lastly, you can also ask us for some support or hosting if you need it.

Regards,

[newera]

Thanks.
It was great to get response from the developer himself.

That actually nullify the another myth(i read in articles/comparision) that prestashop forum is slow in response and support is not good and is relatively small.That definately seems to be myth.

any way during my analysis and some comparision (through articles/forum post etc),i found that most people seem to agree that prestashop is very good and improving a lot but they tend to add or end the article/discussion saying "for simple light weight application prestashop is good but if you are looking big/enterprise shop other apps may be like mxgxxtx or zexcxxt or so on is good".So,i was confused and querying myself "is prestashop not good for that?".

Some people might have said just they feel/see big php framework/company behind them.

So,i was just anxious to know why people say so?

or Why people dont say,you dont need to worry ,even for big/enterprise edition prestashop is good.
Thats why i posted it here,hoping to get answer or to see if there were any logical reasons in saying so.
But so far dont feel so.

Any way,thanks.
I am developer who is trying to launch and extend prestashop for myself may be through module.From where can i start ? I found only 2 books published on prestashop and that mostly discuss adminstration and themes.Any good book,documentation or resource for developers.
Thanks

[guest*]

I want to add that my catalog has 22.000 products and more than 200 categories/subcategories, products are linked in more than one category. I have no problems with speed or something else.
One tipp I can give you. When you have a such big catalog than I had good experience in import or add the articles as base on an non-shop-active category for better management. But this is not really necessary. I migrated my project from another e-commerce platform and there I handled it by the same way. What was good for the first is also good for presta.

Upgrades are not difficult if you have only a few own script adaptions. I upgraded from 1.3.1.1 to the latest 1.3.3.6 and now I'm testing 1.4.x with a cloned DB of my live products since 1.4.0.6. It's really not difficult and can be done also by ONLY USER like me.

[pradchal]

Don't count on prestashop moderators to help you out. From my recent experience, the moderators in this forum rarely come out to help the users.

[Paul C]

@Pradchal I'd be interested to hear why you would say that; in my experience there are many helpful people who frequent this forum, including the moderators. I think what you have to remember is that most, if not all, users of this forum do so in their spare time while working on their own businesses, so to expect instant free assistance is a little unrealistic no?

@newera If I'm being honest, then I will say that Prestashop is still rapidly developing and because of this you have to expect that there may be certain things that aren't perhaps working quite in the way we might wish. If you are a programmer however I'm fairly confident that you can easily build an excellent ecommerce site using it. You might want to check out the development articles on my site (you'll get to it from the links in my signature) which may help get you kick-started with development for Prestashop. I'm hoping that when time allows I can add some more, as I have lots more to publish.

In terms of comparison with Magento, then I would say that unless you want or need (as a developer) to commit to Zend, it has little advantage over Prestashop in most cases. For certain more exotic circumstances Magento may have an edge however.

Compared to Zen? Well, while it's true that there's a lot of "history" there - to say that the code is rock solid and easily extended would be a mis-truth. I personally think the almost daily bug fixing at the last "stable" release (1.3.9, which raced to 1.3.9h with some major problems that required frantic fixing along the way) clearly demonstrated that Zen is past it's best, and that development on it is finished. We may see a Zen 2.0; who knows? I suspect that even if we do, it will be a long time before it's stable....

All the best,

Paul

[pradchal]

My web host advised me prestashop over Magento a year ago. He said it was an easy and open source software that even someone like me who does not have deep knowledge in web programming could easily use it. Once I set prestashop up on my shop, I soon realised that there were many glitches and bugs. Furthermore to my disappointment there was absolutely no user manual. In the beginning I visited this forum and to be honest got tons of help from many users as well as from moderators or should I say "from just one moderator" rocky. Then few months ago I upgraded my shop to prestashop 1.3.5 since I had already invested some money on this software's various modules and templates that I could not abandon it for some other open source e-commerce software. Since then I have been needing some help and have posted few times on this forum and have absolutely not gotten any reply. I am not expecting "an instant" reply as you have quoted in your sentence. But two weeks to get any help or tip I think would kill any hopes, don't you think so? And do not tell me that moderators are busy with other things as they are on the forum shuffling topics from one category to another. They just do not reply to problems. This has been my "recent" experience in this forum.

[Paul C]

I've had a look at your recent questions and I can honestly say that you would have been no better off had you gone to Magento - in fact the only difference would have been that if you're unable to make the required changes yourself, then with Magento you would have had to pay someone more to do it for you than you may have to with Prestashop. This is likely the reason it was recommended to you in the first place.

I think you'll find that the concepts behind what you're asking have been covered in the forum many times before though, and perhaps this is why they aren't being met with enthusiasm.

Paul

[guest*]

Don't count on prestashop moderators to help you out. From my recent experience, the moderators in this forum rarely come out to help the users.

That's a hard statement and I cannot comprehend your disappointment. Also we have tested Magento versus Presta. Magento needs much more server ressources than presta. Magento is not an e-commerce tool for users without any experience before in an open source e-commerce platform. If you think that Magento is better for you, so be happy with it. We don't think so an like much more presta, because it is clear, easy to learn and easy to manage.
Problems with parse are always due to bad configured server and too small host packages. We prefer to use a root-server because here we are alone and have access to all, but we also are not newbies and in the e-commerce since 7 years. And also made good and bad experiences with hosters.

Concerning help here in the forum. I don't understand why you are awaiting directly help from administrators ? A forum is mainly to get help from other users. Besides this I don't agree to your statement. In my case on all my questions I've got an answer, or two, or three - in the first line of admins.