How To Move Safely To Ssl - Http -> Https Without Seo Damages

[zaglebie]

I've bought SSL cert. and i want to move shop from http to https. Google is treating http/https as separate websites so redirecting old pages to new ones is a MUST.

But its not so easy, i've also changed prestashop from 1.4 to 1.6 so here is a problem: most of urls changed a little, id's etc

So i have to redirect 301 each single page to new url if i want force Google to update my urls in search engine.

 

Typical redirect in htaccess would look like this Redirect 301 /page.html https://domain.com/page.html

BUT when SSL is activated then prestashop already put code in htaccess which is causing redirect from http to https - for all pages

So when i use this code for redirect then /page html will really mean https

So how should i do this ? Redirect 301 http://domain.com/page.html https://domain.com/page.html is not valid htaccess code i think ?

[Bill Dalton]

You do not need to redirect an SSL page call. The reason is because it is not a new address. It is just a different protocol. Google will actually reward your web site because Google is recommending that web sites move to SSL. So simply turn on SSL for your entire web site and enjoy. Nothing else is required.

Edited December 11, 2015 by Bill Dalton (see edit history)

[zaglebie]

Well, this is recipe for total disaster in SE positions. Did you even read my post ? Url's changed, i  need to redirect them

Just turning SSL would work only if urls would be the same. But i've changed from prestashop 1.4 to 1.6 and made some modifications so its almost like new website new

example:

old page: http://www.domain.com/shop-offer
new page: https://www.domain/shopping

so as you see just turning SSL will not help, i need also let google know that /shop-offer is now /shopping

so i wonder if Redirect 301 /page.html https://domain.com/newpage.html will work, because its really HTTPS://domain.com/page.html -> https://domain.com/newpage.html

in reality its double redirect, with SSL turned on prestashop will automatically move http://domain.com/oldpage.html to https://domain.com/oldpage.html and another redirect 301 will move oldpage.html to newpage.html

but im worried that such a 'loop' will damage search enginie positions, double redirect is a big no no for google
 

[zaglebie]

ok another thing - i have multistore turned on so there is only one htaccess for multiple domains

 

Redirect 301 http://www.domain2.com/page.html /newpage.html

 

dont work, always main domain is loading

[Bill Dalton]

Right, I'm sorry I didn't read your post. Good luck to you.

[bellini13]

well, this post has little to do with enabling SSL, your real issue is that you upgraded 2 major versions of Prestashop and some of the URLs have changed.  if you disable SSL, you still have the issue.

 

So perhaps you have named your topic incorrectly.

[zaglebie]

GOD. if i wouldnt enable SSL then i wouldnt have a problem

Redirect 301 /oldpage.html to /newpage.html

 

and its done. Think about problem first then try to be smart for god sake i dont have time to waste

[Bill Dalton]

No one is disagreeing that you can redirect Redirect 301 /oldpage.html to /newpage.html. 

 

But SSL has nothing to do with the redirect. In your example;

 

 

old page: http://www.domain.com/shop-offer
new page: https://www.domain/shopping

 

You would do something like, 

 

RewriteRule ^shop-offer/(.*)$ /shopping/$1 [R=301,NC,L]

 

Assuming all page names have not changed.

Edited December 12, 2015 by Bill Dalton (see edit history)

[zaglebie]

most of urls changed, also, its a multistore how to 'let know' that i want to redirect for example domainC.com not domainB.com

[Bill Dalton]

For SEO lets break it down to this, no matter what you do, Google is going to get a 301 error code.

 

Even if you went to all the trouble of setting up a page to page redirect for all of your content, Google gets a 301 to the new content, but that new content doesn't just get a free pass and just replace your old content. It is a new page and it is treated as a new page.

 

So why go to all that trouble, because to a "ROBOT" a 301 is 301.

 

Any call for your old domain regardless of page, send it to your new index page. Easy and done. Google isn't getting 401's and your customers are getting to your new home page.

 

You can log into Webmaster tools and change your domains or/and setup new sitemap, all that stuff.

 

Setting up a page to page redirect is not going to change the fact that you have new pages because Google will not substitute an old page for a new page. If your domain is the same and trusted you can survive the name page change.

[zaglebie]

i think you're not too familiar with SEO

changing urls + adding SSL (google treats http and https as separate websites!) without correct redirect = loss of all positions in google, website starts as completely NEW

redirecting 301 old urls to new urls = passing all the "power" old website had AND pagerank to new website which means it will replace old website in rankings

Edited December 13, 2015 by zaglebie (see edit history)

[Bill Dalton]

I do not work for Prestashop. I do SEO for one of the most successful web sites in Canada. I've had that site at the top of Google through every site change and Google update that has happened in the last 15 years. 

 

Sometimes you just don't know who you are going to meet. On this forum are people who make a living with Prestashop. We all have are own business or interests and we try to help each other out. I wish you well, but I'm not here to argue with you and I'm tired of your rudeness.

Edited December 13, 2015 by Bill Dalton (see edit history)

[zaglebie]

so you're saying that when i have url domain.com/somepage and i have plenty of links to it all over internet, and its ranking very well, then when i will change url to domain.com/somepage2 then it will rank exactly the same ? LOL guess what, domain.com/somepage2 will have 0 LINKS and will start as fresh page, and power of old one will go to hell

changing url (url, not domain because you can change domain in webmasters.google as you say) without redirect is a SEO suicide

 

i feel sorry for your clients

[Bill Dalton]

Nope that is not what I'm saying. If you publish the cure for cancer and all the universities in the world link to it than yes, please make sure you setup a redirect for that page. The links out on the internet are valuable. 

 

But what about the rest of your pages? The only link to the majority of your pages is an internal link.

 

But we didn't have that discussion because you are too rude.