Runge1980 Posted February 10, 2015 Share Posted February 10, 2015 (edited) I have a shop in version 1.6 that I want to extend to B2B Right now I have a normal shop for the plain Consumer. But after we got some business customers, we would like the following Creating customers (company name + password) in BO as you can du with ordinary costumes. The customer in question will see price without VAT And we can set a discount size. Some presta freaks who have an idea for this.:-) Regards. Lasse http://www.techstore.dk Edited February 12, 2015 by Runge1980 (see edit history) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deathdealer Posted February 10, 2015 Share Posted February 10, 2015 just a question: Is the shop going to work with both B2B and B2C???? and are you going to display different prices regarding to if you are a consumer and a company? (just worked my _ss of with this) DD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 10, 2015 Share Posted February 10, 2015 B2B in my opinion is a waste of time on Prestashop, it really does next to nothing You can do discount pricing, VAT etc using groups Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Runge1980 Posted February 10, 2015 Author Share Posted February 10, 2015 Hey DD That is exactly what I hade in minde. :-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Runge1980 Posted February 10, 2015 Author Share Posted February 10, 2015 B2B in my opinion is a waste of time on Prestashop, it really does next to nothing You can do discount pricing, VAT etc using groups Hi Ron. I have through about that option too. But how do I get i to work... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deathdealer Posted February 10, 2015 Share Posted February 10, 2015 First - Haylau - it def does ;-) Runge - this is a bit tricky. My solutions works for this shop, and I don´t know if there is anything better out there or any other solution to it...but, this is how we built up the solution: 1. We have the B2B as the main clients, and consumers are just allowed to see the rek. retail price when they are not logged in. 2. We use the (my words) "in price " for the bookkeeping , thus we export all orders to a ecenomicsystem, and import all prices and the stock from the same. To be able to show the rek. price we ad a special condition e.g "if you are are visitor, price = xxxx:-" There is ways to "export" data from let´s say EXCEL where you have the article number in one column and the rek. price in one and then import that information into the right place in Prestashop OR you can do the conditions manually! If you are going to let the "B2C" clients to be able to shop from your store, define a group thats called B2C and use the customer (or whatever suits you) to define the B2B-clients. The hard part here is to define the discount for the B2B-clients, so please...sketch everything on paper and do start with the flow of how the transactions are going... There is no problem to do what you want, and when you turn on B2B, you get more fields e.g company information to include in the reg. process....everything from VAT-No to max. amount they can shop for... this is messy - but the more work you do on "paper" and find the "traps" - the easier it will be in the end. DD Ps. DONT set up general discounts for groups - create groups, and the AD discounts on product groups and so on.... If there is anything specific you need to now - Im glad to help! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 10, 2015 Share Posted February 10, 2015 Perhaps it is just our own system. We have B2C and B2B The only thing we need B2B to do is allow a company to register and then that company has many users. So for example the account would be "MacDonalds" and then have "John@macdonalds", "Jane@Macdonalds" etc as users. Then Jane and John can place their own orders, but we would just have one invoice point I know it can all be exported and worked on, but it does not seem to be possible directly with Prestashop I suppose the problem is that there are no useful documentations about B2B Runge - try to go with deathdealer advice Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Runge1980 Posted February 10, 2015 Author Share Posted February 10, 2015 Thx for the advice guys. Will look into it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deathdealer Posted February 10, 2015 Share Posted February 10, 2015 just a question Haylau - how do you handle the prices??? Meaning the B2B are re-sellers ...right...to consumers or do they just have a specific discount on the prices like 25%...or? Rely interested how you handle them both on the same site :-) Kindly DD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Runge1980 Posted February 12, 2015 Author Share Posted February 12, 2015 Now it's working as i want it too... Did it in a different way Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 12, 2015 Share Posted February 12, 2015 just a question Haylau - how do you handle the prices??? Meaning the B2B are re-sellers ...right...to consumers or do they just have a specific discount on the prices like 25%...or? Rely interested how you handle them both on the same site :-) Kindly DD We do quantity discounts. Most of the general public will only want a few, where are re-sellers would want 100's So we have a range of quantity discounts. Buy 100 and get 20% off kind of thing. We also have a group set up so that we can give trade customers a purchase order payment method, not visible to general public, and also a special courier Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
n_s_simpson Posted February 17, 2015 Share Posted February 17, 2015 Hi, I'm looking to do exactly the same thing. My site allows customers to order but I'd also like to set up a special customer group (using the B2B option) so for one company I can give multiple users their own login. Each user has their own delivery addresses they can ship to but the invoice goes to the head office. I'd like to give certain users a "master account" so they can add/edit/delete users, set privileges, etc. Is this beyond the B2B feature set? Should I be looking for a module? Cheers Nick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deathdealer Posted February 17, 2015 Share Posted February 17, 2015 n_s_simpson - that works perfectly without any module! Just think how you are going to set up the groups BEFOR, so you have a plan! :-) Create the groups, ad categories and discount to the group. You will not see the discount as a discount on the order - they just get the reduction... Kindly DD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
n_s_simpson Posted February 17, 2015 Share Posted February 17, 2015 So if I turn on B2B, will the normal customer group remain unchanged or will the universe implode? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
n_s_simpson Posted February 17, 2015 Share Posted February 17, 2015 (edited) Also, I have a separate system for creating invoices so can I still keep invoices turned off in B2B mode? (It would be really cool if I could manually attach the PDF invoice my separate system has created to each PS order. Possible?) Edited February 17, 2015 by n_s_simpson (see edit history) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deathdealer Posted February 17, 2015 Share Posted February 17, 2015 well - I don't think that the universe is going to implode at all :-) You can use the system as it is, but....try it...just turn it on and there will be no major changes...more information about the clients(companies) e.g VAT NO as so on.... Im not sure about the flow of your system....but to attach a separated PDF that are generated from another system.... don´t know m8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 17, 2015 Share Posted February 17, 2015 @Deathdealer Can you clarify for me, if we switch on B2B does that enable us to have a company with multiple users? So for example, if a company we sell to, lets call it "Deathdealer ltd" So I can have one company called "Deathdealer Ltd" then have multiple buyers from that company. So John@deathdealer, Sue@deathdealer etc How does that work? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deathdealer Posted February 17, 2015 Share Posted February 17, 2015 Ron: A company can have a lot of offices e.g either one billing address and a lot of physical stores and the other way around e.g all these compnys are in this group and get discounts and have their own addresses for billing...... There is no major changes if you turn on - so try it! But again, make a sketch of the way you what it to work, get it down on paper and just see it before you actually just starting to create a lot of accounts :-) DD Ps. and yes you can get exactly what you ask for! again :-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duskfall Posted November 2, 2015 Share Posted November 2, 2015 (edited) Hello, found this thread kind of useful and need to ask a clarification. Is it possible to have a b2b or b2c shop by default ( doesn't matter) and if the user has registered with a VAT number then display the b2b prices, else the b2c prices. As far as i can think of I need an automatic customer group assignment on register? Is it implemented yet or do I need to modify the code? Found a smarty variable $priceDisplay, which when user is logged in with VAT number valid, it is 1 and it shows prices in cart total with Vat excluded, else if it is 0 the user is guest, or no VAT is given Edited November 2, 2015 by Duskfall (see edit history) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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