SEO of 1.6 questions

[cheapweb]

I have been conducting a few tests on prestashop version 1.6 and they all end up in the same result.

 

The SEO  and Performance abbillities of this NEW Prestashop is beyond bad,

 

It is probably the worst Amateur programming seen in a long time, from an SEO point of view.

 

I have tested boyh working and Just-out-of-the-box  versions and they all come up with Tons of violations.

 

This is from new install

 

1. Large amount of script code ( 88 counts )

 

2. Unnecessary redirects ( 80 counts )

 

3. The page contains multiple canonical formats. ( 34 counts )

 

4. The page was excluded by a noindex attribute. ( 10 counts )

 

5. The page contains broken hyperlinks. ( 6 counts )

 

6. The URL for the hyperlink is broken. ( 6 counts)

 

In total there is 224 violations

 

That is simply NOT good enough.

 

The absolutely worst Amaturish mistake is to put soo much script on the actual page , instead of putting it in a seperate file

 

The page at "http://newprestashop.com" contains a large (2779 characters) block of embedded script code.

Search engines will ignore script code, but large quantities of script will force the actual text content of the page further down in the HTML. Since search engines may analyze only the first 100 KB of a page, it is possible that the script block may prevent search engines from indexing any page content. 

 

And the violation number actually EXPLODES on a shop which is working.

 

You only have to put a few products in, add a few add-ons and so on.

 

Then your Violation count can easily be above a 2000 count.

 

And its mostly Script, Redirects, canonical formats and broken hyperlinks which are all essential to a good SEO performance

 

No wonder shops are doing bad in Search Engines.

 

And its a shame because I have stuck with prestashop for years now and I am in general very fond of the easy install and use.

Edited August 30, 2015 by El Patron (see edit history)

[duredo]

you can optimize prestashop performance that will answer your seo performance issue,

Back Office > Preferences > Performance

 

*I have tested my store, and I get 93 score with google insight, so I'm pleased with prestashop performance (seo performance too)

[cheapweb]

you can optimize prestashop performance that will answer your seo performance issue,

Back Office > Preferences > Performance

 

*I have tested my store, and I get 93 score with google insight, so I'm pleased with prestashop performance (seo performance too)

Hi

I am glad to hear that, but it does not change the facts.

 

Large scripts in pages, broken links and redirects are ALWAYS bad for SEO.

[Trip]

When you use CCC Caching options under performance tab it changes a lot of facts.

You also have the option to Move JavaScript to the end  of the site so most of your points are not true at least when you know how to configure the software.

Best regards, Trip

[Dh42]

I really don't know what to say to this topic other than you don't have an understanding of how SEO works and you don't really know what you are talking about. 

 

The factors that you listed are not considered major ranking factors, or eve considered minor ranking factors for that matter. Lets go through them one by 1.

 

1. There are a couple of points here, turn CCC on, like was mentioned above. But at the same time just because there is a module in PrestaShop does not mean you have to have it hooked and use it. When you have CCC turned on, if you are using modules that are written correctly, you should end up with one script file and only a little bit of inline JS. Oh, yeah, search engines can read javascript too. http://googlewebmastercentral.blogspot.com/2014/05/understanding-web-pages-better.html 

 

 

2. I don't know where you are getting these from, the only thing I can think of would be the facebook module. That is how the facebook api works. It wouldn't concern me since every site running a facebook like box has the exact same issue. Disable the block if you want to reduce this non ranking factor. 

 

 

3. Please elaborate on what you mean on this. 

 

 

4. What is the issue with this? Truth be told more people need to no index more pages of their site. Duplicate content is real, it is a concern.

 

 

5. Is this your live site with broken links? I would find the broken links and fix them... I don't really know what to say here. 

 

 

6. Same as above. 

 

 

Like I mentioned before on the scale of ranking factors (which there are 200 of) these are very small and they could be issues with the demo data that people are not going to run in their shop when it is live. 

 

Also what ever tool you are running is pulling outdated ranking suggestions, I would consider using something more up to date. 

[mr913]

Some issues not mentioned that REALLY need addressed:

 

1. Category menu title text (the text that shows when you hover the mouse over it) is pulling the category description instead of the category name. If you have decent category descriptions this can be hundreds of characters long. It's still an issue in version 1.6.1 and has been an issue for some time.

 

2. If you use force SSL on all pages the Google sitemap had incorrect urls.

 

I've been desperately trying to figure out why Google kept displaying the wrong pages in search results and why my search rankings have been plummeting, and I'm now convinced these two combined have some it. The long title tags were burying my real page content tens of thousands of characters down on the page. The bad urls in the sitemap weren't helping anything.

 

I've now fixed these two issues and I'm hoping maybe by Christmas I'll get some semblance of position back. Going from a thousand a day in sales to less than a thousand a month won't work for very long.

[malcek]

Some issues not mentioned that REALLY need addressed:

 

1. Category menu title text (the text that shows when you hover the mouse over it) is pulling the category description instead of the category name. If you have decent category descriptions this can be hundreds of characters long. It's still an issue in version 1.6.1 and has been an issue for some time.

 

2. If you use force SSL on all pages the Google sitemap had incorrect urls.

 

I've been desperately trying to figure out why Google kept displaying the wrong pages in search results and why my search rankings have been plummeting, and I'm now convinced these two combined have some it. The long title tags were burying my real page content tens of thousands of characters down on the page. The bad urls in the sitemap weren't helping anything.

 

I've now fixed these two issues and I'm hoping maybe by Christmas I'll get some semblance of position back. Going from a thousand a day in sales to less than a thousand a month won't work for very long.

 

I agree with mr913. In our country I have for all my key keywords  very high positions on organic search in 1.5 version, after upgrade to version 1.6 organic search droped like stone. Before I have spent only 5% of revenue on paid search, now I have 15% and more.

now with latest version I discovered that google sitemap module (made by Prestashop) is written wrong path to product page (example: https://www.trgovina-figura.sihttps://www.trgovina-figura.si/si/otroska-oblacila/8-spalni-pajacek.html), etc. lately I'm very dissapointet by Prestashop. Why on earth would have fresh install so bad results?

just to be clear I have VPS with 4GB ram, 2 Cpu, 50GB space and around 12k product and 80 categories, around 60000 combinations and MySql specialist was doing fine tunning for 2 month and now we have opening around 4-6 sec it depends on traffic on site. (but fully loaded page sometimes takes 30 second). OK visible elements for customers are shown in times that are acceptable. First byte is taking more than 1 second and somebody reffers to me taht it is better to run on toaster . I have spoken to one programmer for some help and he said to me that correcting their mistakes on code would take me a lot of money and when I upgrade everthing should go again.

 

I spent so many time searching for solutions, paid "professionals" that was offered their expertise at the end I stuck with same results and empty pocket.

 

Now when I search for help I want first results and then I would pay. Of course there is no hero that puts their time on table and do the job. At the end all they complained that the server configuration is to blame.

 

Of course I know that Prestashop is free. But I have spent quite some money for additional modules on ADDONS and their job is to written good code.

 

Best regards

 

Martin

[mr913]

Tonight I saw there was an upgrade available for google sitemap and after the upgrade the default module creates proper https links without needing to modify the code. So that is fixed. 

Edited August 29, 2015 by mr913 (see edit history)

[Denver Prophit Jr.]

Also what ever tool you are running is pulling outdated ranking suggestions, I would consider using something more up to date. 

Dh42 is spot on. Concentrate on your taxonomy and ontologies. Create fantastic product content and you will do well. Don't forget video marketing and social backlinks. Dh42 wrote a fantastic twitter product card module. It's free, too.

[malcek]

can you share it with us?

[Denver Prophit Jr.]

The link is at https://dh42.com/blog/free-prestashop-twitter-card-module/