TrannyBob Posted January 14, 2014 Share Posted January 14, 2014 Hello, as the release of Prestashop 1.6 takes longer than announced I have the following question. I know that a Prestashop 1.5 theme can be upgraded without a problem to the 1.6 version. But as I want the best result possible, would you wait for the release of Prestashop 1.6 to let my developer create the theme or would you already start now, as my deadline to launch my shop is March / April? Basically it only depends if a theme build on Prestashop 1.5 takes advantage of the new improved front end of Prestashop 1.6. Is this the case? What would you do in my case, if you want the best result possible? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bitshok Posted January 14, 2014 Share Posted January 14, 2014 Hello, I recommend you to wait until the final release of PrestaShop 1.6, it would be easier to maintain and upgrade on further releases. If you feel you can't wait ,you could start with the latest stable version, but this implies more work. When the time will come to upgrade, your developer will have to spend time making the theme compatible with some of the new features and functionality and this may turn out to be not that easy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul_gpvr Posted January 14, 2014 Share Posted January 14, 2014 I'm also in the same situation wanting to upgrade my site from 1.4.7.0 to 1.6 with a nice new responsive theme and back office. Not sure when 1.6 will be released, even when it is released as 'stable' i'm sure there will be a lot of problems to iron out. So it is risky going to a brand new version. Wait for 1.6 or play it safe with 1.5.6.1, that is the question! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xavier du Tertre Posted January 14, 2014 Share Posted January 14, 2014 Not sure when 1.6 will be released, even when it is released as 'stable' i'm sure there will be a lot of problems to iron out. Not true PrestaShop 1.6 is a major new version indeed, but for the first time in PrestaShop history, the core wasn't changed. Plus, the Community is doing a lot of testing and bug reports on the Alpha version, and will probably do even more of that on the upcoming Beta version (in a few days). With all this testing on a software built on a stable core (the one of 1.5.6.1), it's going to be the most stable first release we've ever done! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eleazar Posted January 14, 2014 Share Posted January 14, 2014 Not true PrestaShop 1.6 is a major new version indeed, but for the first time in PrestaShop history, the core wasn't changed. I guess you mean it wasn't changed very much yet, Xavier. You may compare classes or category files of 1.5.6.1 and 1.6.0.2 and you will find not just few differences. I don't know, maybe that's but cosmetic repair or bug fixing. But can we be really sure of this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xavier du Tertre Posted January 14, 2014 Share Posted January 14, 2014 I guess we'll see at the release, which we are all very excited about Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrannyBob Posted January 14, 2014 Author Share Posted January 14, 2014 (edited) OK, so I will wait to give my developer the task to build my shop until he can do it for 1.6. It is may possible that he is already able to start working to build my theme with the Beta release, as I really don't want to miss my deadline in March / April? (My developer needs about 30 days) By the way here is a hint for everybody who also can't wait any longer... PrestaShop v1.6.0.1 - Released on November 19, 2013 PrestaShop v1.6.0.2 - Released on December 19, 2013 so... PrestaShop v1.6.0.3 (90% may releases on january 19, 2014) and PrestaShop 1.6 Final (100% may releases on february 19, 2014) Of course this is just speculation, but we will see.. Edited January 14, 2014 by TrannyBob (see edit history) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucas Cerdan Posted January 15, 2014 Share Posted January 15, 2014 By the way here is a hint for everybody who also can't wait any longer... PrestaShop v1.6.0.1 - Released on November 19, 2013 PrestaShop v1.6.0.2 - Released on December 19, 2013 so... PrestaShop v1.6.0.3 (90% may releases on january 19, 2014) and PrestaShop 1.6 Final (100% may releases on february 19, 2014) Of course this is just speculation, but we will see.. Hahaha, you're awesome for noticing such things, but sorry, this is not how we planned our releases :') The final release date will depend on the community test & feedback during the Beta, and we will not force ourselves to release it on a 19th 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dreamtheme Posted January 15, 2014 Share Posted January 15, 2014 OK, so I will wait to give my developer the task to build my shop until he can do it for 1.6. It is may possible that he is already able to start working to build my theme with the Beta release, as I really don't want to miss my deadline in March / April? (My developer needs about 30 days) By the way here is a hint for everybody who also can't wait any longer... PrestaShop v1.6.0.1 - Released on November 19, 2013 PrestaShop v1.6.0.2 - Released on December 19, 2013 so... PrestaShop v1.6.0.3 (90% may releases on january 19, 2014) and PrestaShop 1.6 Final (100% may releases on february 19, 2014) Of course this is just speculation, but we will see.. You better wait for 1.6.x. However i think that 1.6 will be out pretty soon, and you will be ready within your deadline. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul_gpvr Posted January 16, 2014 Share Posted January 16, 2014 Not true PrestaShop 1.6 is a major new version indeed, but for the first time in PrestaShop history, the core wasn't changed. Plus, the Community is doing a lot of testing and bug reports on the Alpha version, and will probably do even more of that on the upcoming Beta version (in a few days). With all this testing on a software built on a stable core (the one of 1.5.6.1), it's going to be the most stable first release we've ever done! Sounds promising! I will probably hold out until 1.6 then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomin Posted January 20, 2014 Share Posted January 20, 2014 Not true PrestaShop 1.6 is a major new version indeed, but for the first time in PrestaShop history, the core wasn't changed. Plus, the Community is doing a lot of testing and bug reports on the Alpha version, and will probably do even more of that on the upcoming Beta version (in a few days). With all this testing on a software built on a stable core (the one of 1.5.6.1), it's going to be the most stable first release we've ever done! Nice that you are so sure...But will it round correctly at last?!?!? If rounding issue isn't solved in 1.5 and of course 1.6, PS realise is just peace of...just my 2 cents Why I should use PS, if it can't do one simple thing - do math and rounding correctly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eleazar Posted January 20, 2014 Share Posted January 20, 2014 If you can't wait feel free to ask German developer Gurkcity for his overrides (included in GC German for 1.5.6) that correct the Prestashop computing errors. But I was told that the final version of 1.6 will be the first to bear down this annoying errors. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomin Posted January 20, 2014 Share Posted January 20, 2014 Yes, i sent him a message. Thank you. But I still can't understand, why in almost a year this can't be solved by prestateam? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucas Cerdan Posted January 21, 2014 Share Posted January 21, 2014 Why I should use PS, if it can't do one simple thing - do math and rounding correctly Yes, i sent him a message. Thank you. But I still can't understand, why in almost a year this can't be solved by prestateam? Maybe because rounding & taxes around the world are all but "one simple thing"? This has huge impact on the solution and cannot be taken lightly. We are well aware of the situation but couldn't make those core changes in 1.6.0 as we wouldn't have the time to test it thoroughly. In the meantime, PrestaShop is open-source and some (awesome) developers published modules that fixe these issue for specific countries. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eleazar Posted January 21, 2014 Share Posted January 21, 2014 (edited) @Lucas Cerdan That's a pity and I really regret to read this. I'm well aware that this is but a simple thing - but you should know that this statement of yours looks like a confession of failure because I guess you will agree that for online shop systems correct computing prices and taxes is a crucial issue. And btw the complaints about wrong computation methods are legion in the French, English or e.g. German forum - and in parts much older than one year. Month ago I send FM a collection of those threads. Nobody really needs a shop system that doesn't act up - mindless of the fact that I love Prestashop because this is a great improvement in shop software development! But the devils always in the details. You may disagree, but in my view correct computing is much more important than pimping up the backend or focussing on development of still deficient modules like e.g. gamification. @Tomin As a workaround you may use my self computing invoice here: http://www.prestashop.com/forums/topic/244719-tutorial-rechnungsformular-%C3%A4ndern-f%C3%BCr-version-15x/page-4?do=findComment&comment=1514484 Edited January 21, 2014 by eleazar (see edit history) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucas Cerdan Posted January 21, 2014 Share Posted January 21, 2014 @eleazar All I'm saying is that we are aware of these issues and already planned to fix them. However, we cannot make these changes quickly since PrestaShop is used all around the world and we cannot make one patch after another. Taxes & rounding represent lot of research, documentation, planning, development and last but not the least, tests. Rest assured that we take the subject very seriously and is of course one of our main priority. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrannyBob Posted January 21, 2014 Author Share Posted January 21, 2014 Can I already purchase now some modules or should I also wait for the release of Prestashop 1.6? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xavier du Tertre Posted January 21, 2014 Share Posted January 21, 2014 The Beta version will allow module testing, upgrade testing and so on. Until then, there's no reason why you shouldn't start working on a 1.5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stottycabanas Posted January 21, 2014 Share Posted January 21, 2014 We are well aware of the situation but couldn't make those core changes in 1.6.0 as we wouldn't have the time to test it thoroughly. Taxes & rounding represent lot of research, documentation, planning, development and last but not the least, tests. Rest assured that we take the subject very seriously and is of course one of our main priority. Lucas, I understand the current focus is on 1.6, but given the fundamental importance of getting calculations right (well said, Eleazar) and the priority you place on it, why not target 1.6.1 as the release where you focus on getting all these issues resolved? As you've been keen to stress previously, 1.6 is going to be very stable, so there won't be many bug fixes that would have to wait until 1.6.2. Cheers, Dave 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucas Cerdan Posted January 22, 2014 Share Posted January 22, 2014 Lucas, I understand the current focus is on 1.6, but given the fundamental importance of getting calculations right (well said, Eleazar) and the priority you place on it, why not target 1.6.1 as the release where you focus on getting all these issues resolved? As you've been keen to stress previously, 1.6 is going to be very stable, so there won't be many bug fixes that would have to wait until 1.6.2. Cheers, Dave I never said that this won't be in 1.6.1 I cannot communicate right now on our roadmap, versionning, etc... but, as I said, those issues on tax & rounding ARE a priority. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waterworks2 Posted February 2, 2014 Share Posted February 2, 2014 Any word on whether the 1.6 will offer an option to remove the ID from the URL? Would love to see clean URLs in the newest version. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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