RE: PrestaShop User Manual - where is the perspective of the seller?

[Bobcat22]

RE: PrestaShop User Manual - where is the perspective of the seller? How does the new seller enter new products, product images or brand their page? Is it required they must go to the back office to add/edit products?

Edited August 11, 2013 by Bobcat22 (see edit history)

[vekia]

Yes, sellers must go to the back office and they must add their products there

[PascalVG]

Hi Bobcat,

There are many menu's in Back office, many of which are not very useful for contents editors, as you noticed. They are for the system administrators/database administrators.

 

If you want the seller NOT to mess with all menu's, you can look at the pre-created 'employees', 'profiles' and their 'permissions' (See Administration menu in Back office) Where you can limit Back office users to only those menu's they should be allowed to view/modify. This will result in them less likely to make unintended errors (read: headaches for the administrators).

 

So although the manual is an all-inclusive, system wide guide, they can look at only their parts of the program they are allowed to interact with.

 

Maybe this helps (a little)

pascal

[Bobcat22]

Would like to thank you both for your assistance, this information is very helpful. As stated, the manual does not present the perspective of the seller. For instance, suggested permissions, menu items, how to create your seller's landing page. There needs to be, I believe, a sellers manuals so they may be informed how to setup their shop. This manual or Seller's guild would achieve - features presented for the seller and functions. Sellers do not need to bothered reading tech and admin guides.

 

 

Other concern on the Seller's Perspective:

• The manual or PrestaShop guide (PDF). does not show how these shops are partitioned from one another. Images, media, uploads - where do they reside? Did I miss this topic in the book?
  
• If a shop is to be deleted, where are its assets? I am from the WordPress camp and all of this is made clear if using a single install or a WP MU environment.
  
• Can you migrate a single shop from one PrestaShop install to another? This is of interest to a shop owner. If this can be done, please show me in the guide.
  

Edited August 11, 2013 by Bobcat22 (see edit history)

[PascalVG]

Bobcat,

I'm a little confused about your latest post. I have the feeling we somehow talk about different definitions of a 'seller' here.

 

Prestashop is basically 'made' for 'merchants'. They maintain their own shop, add products, add stock, take orders etc. They either do themselves or they ask someone to do the system administration/database administration for them.

 

From your story, it I presume that you make shops for 'sellers', who then add their own contents, is this right? (So you are the system administrator/database administrator, so to speak)

 

• The manual or PrestaShop guide (PDF). does not show how these shops are partitioned from one another. Images, media, uploads - where do they reside? Did I miss this topic in the book?
  

 

This I didn't fully get. Just to make sure, you use multishop function, and give each of your clients it's own shop with own domain?

 

When using the multishop function, one database has all 'shops' inside, identified by an id_shop field. So when deleting one of the shops, you should delete (after backup, maybe) the records of this shop. (Have no experience with multi shop, but can assume that the records will be deleted automatically when deleting a shop (when not 'shared' between shops).

(Anyone, correct me here when I'm wrong!)

 

You can copy or move a shop to another domain. A few small changes are needed (like changing domain name etc). There are some easy to follow tutorials here on the forum how to do this.

 

Please elaborate a little more on your view on the 'seller'.

 

thanks,

pascal

[Bobcat22]

HI Pascal IVG,

 

Sellers = Merchants -

• Where do images, media uploads reside?
  
• The database for one merchant is in separate tables in the entire database?
  
• Need a Merchant Guide
  

" . . they maintain their own shop, add products, add stock, take orders etc. They either do themselves or they ask someone to do the system administration/database administration for them."

 

Precisely - A specific Merchant Guide is needed and not be bothered with the entire user manual.

 

"You can copy or move a shop to another domain. A few small changes are needed (like changing domain name etc). There are some easy to follow tutorials here on the forum how to do this."

 

Let me hunt them down and look closer at the guide.

 

Kind regards,

 

bc

Edited August 11, 2013 by Bobcat22 (see edit history)

[PascalVG]

Files are placed in subfolder(s), not inside database. Not sure if separated by shop in multishop setting.

Anyone?

[PascalVG]

No, sellers share tables, authenticated by id_shop field n the table (there where needed)

Sellers should only see their own contents, though. The sql statements filter on shop.

Edited August 11, 2013 by PascalVG (see edit history)

[Bobcat22]

Thanks PacalIVG - that was helpful.

 

Re: Asset Locations:

So from your 2 responses I understand that all assets like media, image, audio are all contained within each respective merchant's folder. Hopefully this is true. And by modifying the URLs for the media files, you are up and running. If this is true, is there a simple re-direct link so you do not have to manually point each asset which is embedded in blogs, product, product description, avatars, to the new location? If not, a merchant having hundreds of products would have to manually modify each entry.

 

About Database for each Merchant:

When a Merchant account is to be migrated, the application or php script filters in all the relevant tables for that particular merchant and then from that extraction creates a new db file?

Edited August 11, 2013 by Bobcat22 (see edit history)

[Dh42]

Are you talking about having more than one seller or merchant per installation of prestashop?

[Bobcat22]

Yes, multi-store with multiple vendors. I assume that what we are referring to is more than one seller. Also in reference with media and upload files that they reside in each respective merchant's folder.

Edited August 11, 2013 by Bobcat22 (see edit history)

[SmartDataSoft]

Hi you can use this documentation , which is on beta mode and free. http://smartdatasoft.com/prestashop/documentation/beta

 

we will release this opensource with some nice ui.

 

need your feedback guys.

[RonDsy]

This is good stuff, thanks.

[PascalVG]

Hi SmartDataSoft,

Thanks for sharing! I'll go slowly through it. When I see anything that might be useful to feedback about, I'll PM you.

 

pascal

[Bobcat22]

"Files are placed in subfolder(s), not inside database. Not sure if separated by shop in multishop setting."

 

The question is as Ron states, do the assets from each merchant reside within the merchants folders like: product images, audio, uploads?

Edited August 13, 2013 by Bobcat22 (see edit history)