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Hi Team,

 

First of all, congratulation for your product : good job and it works !!!

Ok, you have some little bugs to correct but that's the life for a software lifecycle !

i just want to know if you project soon to fix this release to Release 1.

Candidates Releases are great but in most of cases, there are only RC1 & RC2 .. no more...

here is RC 3. Could we expect RC4, RC5... RC7... ???

Are you near ready for the RTM ?

Regards,

 

JP

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This project looks indeed really abandoned. I have been using Prestashop since 0.9.5 when it was announced the final release was coming soon. The plan was to release it in February.

 

I have since then visited PS website everyday, and also reading the forums, waiting for that stable release, hoping to read news about the project and trying to go live with my shop asap. I was very excited about Prestashop and put very high expectatives on it. To be honest, I found it like the best e-commerce solution ever. Ever. But everything has a limit, even the patience of your users. No matter of how free your software is. I mean, if you want all your work and spent hours to be worth, you can't have your users waiting forever. I would also blame the "closed" community you have, since its more focused on french people and that excludes a lot of possible non-french contributors.

 

I understand more than anyone that this is a free project, that the developers have other things to do and so. But still, look at the planned release schedule and compare it to the real dates of releases. We get a new RC once a month that doesn't do much but to fix bugs, but there is still a lot of work to do and modules to program. And most of them will be released after the stable version. With the actual schedule, it will take another year until the release of a full-featured and stable version.

 

Nowadays, not even the developers post too much on the forum. There are no news, no public info, no one knows when the new RC will be released nor what it will have. Honestly, the project looks abandoned.

 

After all this time supporting Prestashop, you'll understand it's not an easy decision for me but, at this point, I can't wait longer. I've lost all my hopes in PS and I need to find an alternative. And you know, there are plenty of full-featured stable and free e-commerce solutions out there.

 

Anyway, thanks to the Prestashop team for all your effort and time in this project. You had an excellent idea, you have just failed at making it real. However, I really appreciate your work and wish you best of luck with it. Special thanks to Peter Wilson, who has spent more time on the English section helping us and giving us news. Perhaps I'll use your product again in the future.

 

Best regards.

 

 

PD. I know I'll probably get a lot of replies from the fanboys defending PS. Cool, I'm fine with that. I didn't try to be an ass or anything, I just stated my actual situation and explained why I can't consider Prestashop to be my e-commerce solution anymore. Not eveyone here is a fanboy, you know :/ Real life is harder than that.

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Ive got admit, although I believe PS will be an awesome software in the future, I agree with Intrami.

 

I e-mailed the evelopers about a month ago and they told me "we hope to have a stable release in a couple of weeks"

 

Have not seen any further news or info at all. Im really disappointed. Might have to try to convert to magento :-(

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I can understand where you are both coming from, but if you are using this for your clients, being a web developer we should between us all be able to get past these bugs, so although the stable release may offer more features when it finally comes available to the public & possibly be bug free  :-

 

I feel that I am able to offer the current RC3 to my clients and any problems along the way I am able to deal with myself & provide a solution to this community or post messages on this forum for additional help.

 

So with all this in mind RC3 is close enough to provide to my clients & if you know your way round PHP & MYSQL you should have no problems using this for your own clients.  :)

 

However what I will say is I have spoken to Peter Wilson a few weeks ago, and there has been talk over a new Prestashop Web Site & Forum, if we can all see some movement in development & faster forum responses etc. everyone here will feel a lot more comfortable with using Prestashop.  ;)

 

http://svn.oscommerce.com/jira/secure/Dashboard.jspa

Take oscommerce for example, they have enhanced bug reports, although oscommerce does not come any where near close for the web 2.0 interface of prestashop.  ;D

 

Suggestion to the developers.

I believe you are re-solving most of these bugs, but you really need to have some kind of active bug tracker in place for the community to see progress & offer our support where needed to speed up these development issues, i.e. each release you bring out new features. But these features may slow down development so are they all neccesary, please let us the Prestashop community decide, if we could see the progress (%) of each job which needs to be done, we can either provide assistance where necessary or suggest which features are priority  ???

 

i.e.  Advanced Searches, this should really be in place by now, more important than several of the other features currently available.   :(

 

To finish off there are a lot of advanced developers in this community, although I have only been using this for past few months, I have not yet had time to go through the entire coding structure, but as I develop each project I learn new things about prestashop.  :)

 

Why not setup a project bidding area or donations for these extra features modules.  ???

Another idea is a developers WIKI to help us learn the way this system is structured.  ???

 

Some of you may think I am starting to go on a little but it all needed to be said, I really hope to see a reply regarding this message from the developers.  :-

 

I look forward to working on more Prestashop and help the community to grow  :)

PS:  I will try to translate & post this message in French although not sure I will use all these different emotions  ;)

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I can understand where you are both coming from, but if you are using this for your clients, being a web developer we should between us all be able to get past these bugs, so although the stable release may offer more features when it finally comes available to the public & possibly be bug free  :-

 

This is my biggest niggle! I am not a developer but will help where ever possible.

 

Its a shame that this forum has no way off translating french posts. I have even tried putting them into free online translators but they use "slang" and it doesnt recognise it.

 

Well I'll hold out for a new website but I'm not confident at the moment.

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Bonjour,

Je suis désolé, mais vous pouvez écrire en Anglais si vous le souhaitez ?

Parce que j'ai beaucoup de difficultés à comprendre votre message.

 

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Hello,

I'm sorry but you can write your post in English if you want ?

Because in french, i've most difficult for read this.

 

Julien B.

 

 

lol.....lol.....lol! +1 It doesnt translate very well the other way round either! haha.

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Maybe the developers need to look into this for the new site to automatically translate, unless there is a Free one that actually works  :o for now I will stick to english untill I come up with better solution  ;)

 

A spell checkerrrr would also be useful lol  ;):):D ;D ::)

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Yeah you and me both. Im sure magento's forum auto translates.......not 100% sure though. Oh well as I said originally:-

 

PS has the groundwork's of the No.1 OS Shopping Cart but at the minute I feel its unreliable. I truly hope the next stable release is out in the very near future.

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The issue is I want to get my shop stable so I can make money.

 

I am not a developer as you are insinuating, I sell shoes. We sell on ebay but fancied opening an online store so the robbing b*stards do not get a cut in our profit.

 

I appreciate that the RC's are for testing but the problem I am faced with is that 0.97 is very basic (and basic shops will be out performed by "flashy" shops)  and v1 is still full of bugs.

 

Additionally I keep looking to the forum for answers but they either say yeah sorted in RC4 which I have been waiting for or Bonjour, Merci, Au revior!!!! I understand that the developers are French but what good is the forum to me? I need a stable release so I can get my head down and do what I do best and that is to sell shoes not muck about with code.

 

As I said magento is going to win another customer as that auto updates when fixes and new releases come out. Unfortunately at the minute I dont think my hosting package supports it but I have contacted them to find out how and what I need to do this.

 

I was not going off the subject at all. Everything I have wrote is in reply to somebody or regarding the Unreliability i.e. lack of updates/stable releases of PS!

 

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Here we are again. A new day, a new afernoon, I suspect we will go through another evening and night without comment from any of the PS team!

 

Any developers wish to make me eat my own words (I can take it but your comments may just be able to put my mind at ease) ???

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Unfurtunately i have to go with magento, can't wait after presta anymore...

 

Maybe when it will be v 1 final with no bugs i will reconsider, but I don't think so, it's very hard to move a shop from a platform to another...

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Unfurtunately i have to go with magento, can't wait after presta anymore...

 

Maybe when it will be v 1 final with no bugs i will reconsider, but I don't think so, it's very hard to move a shop from a platform to another...

 

I've looked at Magento and it does everything I could possibly want, but the people in the organisation who'll be using the system to sell our stuff would never figure it out, Presta Shop is so simple!

 

Once they get V1 out and add the Google Checkout module I'm in heaven :)

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I'm french and I can say that the french part of the forum is active and official devs are helping us everytime, so the project is not dead.

 

I understand that it is frustrating for english speaking people that lots of posts are in french and that it is difficult to read french posts. Prestateam is working on a community website with a lot of features and in English if not multilingual.

 

Of course, beeing developped by a french team, it is clear that french is the first language used here (when english projects are developped it's always english first and it can be annoying for foreign people, but it's logical, so don't blame for it).

 

While waiting for the new website, feel free to ask me to translate important posts (but not all of the forum !), i will do my best to come back several times a day and translate some posts.

 

I have a RC3 testing shop and it is ready to go on production, all majors bugs have been fixed.

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Milhouse that is excellent news and Im sure we will all appreciate your assistance with this.

 

Im sure we all accept that it is a french product and that, naturally, post will be in French. The only reason we got onto the forum language barriers was because the amount of bugs left in RC's.

 

Finally on the language note:-  Althought the developers first language may be French I, plus many other people, know that they are fluent in English aswell. I have had several e-mails from them and lets face it there is an English translation on PS as default!

 

 

Now to the main point trying to be made:-

If the RC's were released more often with fixed bugs then this problem would not exist. PS is loosing people to other systems purely because the lack of releases. It is an awsome and user friendly system but without adequate comitment to fixing bugs in a timely manner its pointless.

 

Again I feel the urge to point out that despite this thread being very very active there is not one single reply from an official developer. Its very dissapointing and in a way a bit disrespectful.

 

Regards

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Actually doing roadmap for RC4, and selecting bugs to do or not (critical bugs and optionnal bugs).

 

We might get informed about solved bugs real soon!

 

I hope before friday because I'm afraid the French people won't like us Dutch people after that  ;D

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The issue is I want to get my shop stable so I can make money.

 

I am not a developer as you are insinuating, I sell shoes. We sell on ebay but fancied opening an online store so the robbing b*stards do not get a cut in our profit.

 

I appreciate that the RC's are for testing but the problem I am faced with is that 0.97 is very basic (and basic shops will be out performed by "flashy" shops)  and v1 is still full of bugs.

 

Additionally I keep looking to the forum for answers but they either say yeah sorted in RC4 which I have been waiting for or Bonjour, Merci, Au revior!!!! I understand that the developers are French but what good is the forum to me? I need a stable release so I can get my head down and do what I do best and that is to sell shoes not muck about with code.

 

As I said magento is going to win another customer as that auto updates when fixes and new releases come out. Unfortunately at the minute I dont think my hosting package supports it but I have contacted them to find out how and what I need to do this.

 

I was not going off the subject at all. Everything I have wrote is in reply to somebody or regarding the Unreliability i.e. lack of updates/stable releases of PS!

 

 

I am with you.  I understand completely where you are coming from as a retailer, not a programmer.  HOWEVER, BE WARNED - I currently am paying a "platinum partner" host for a Magento site that I can't get working.  It's frustrating, things don't work, I can't even get my logo uploaded.  This is what has led me to Prestashop - which is way more advanced than Magento.  I was so hopeful with Magento, but it was all in vain.  They don't even have a wysiwig and all the images are distorted.  I had the host install the community made image resizer, but they can't get it to work.  No luck with getting a wysiwyg editor installed either.  I have given up with them.  The members in the magento forum are also not much help and 90% of them are all crying for help and directions with nothing forthcoming.  Those that do understand it are very greedy.  Magento is as bad as miva merchant in that every little thing must be purchased - they will nickel and dime you to death making it very costly.  I also have a miva5 host and will be closing that down too since I can't get it to work either.  I'm just biding my time at the moment as I believe Prestashop has the best cart going - they are already miles ahead of the others and I use Yahoo babelfish ad Google page translator (from the Google toolbar) to help with French (and other) translations.

But, it's up to you - just wanted to let you know from experience what you're about to get into with magento and or miva!

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Yeah I agree about Magento. I have downloaded Magento onto my local machine and it is even more unuser-friendly than it looks at first sight.

 

However this does not mean to say that PS will still loose people if they do understand programming. I am so annoyed. I just don't know what to do or where to look  >:(

 

What is really getting on my nerves is that still, after 8 bloody days, not a single word from an official source. I think everyone that has posted here has been very fair and has praised what PS COULD be but the dev team don't even have the professionalism to type an input.

 

I sat here the other night and watched who logged onto the forum. Guess what........Philippe Sang!!!! A system administrator on this forum and one of the developers of the system!!! Why did he not post to this topic?

 

Anyway rant over,

 

Stu

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It seems to me that this project has been slowly abandoned, as sad as it sounds. It is truly the best there is out there, and it is slowly dying. We need to have a conference call - honestly. All active developers and everyone else who is putting time into PS code should have a meeting. The more I dive into PS, the more I understand and get confused at the same time.

 

We want a developer to at least say SOMETHING on this topic.

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Ox40 : I stop you right there :) PS is not dead, and is far to be. It's just the english part of the forum that is not followed enough by the prestateam.

 

Here a message  from Philippe Sang :

Nous nous dirigeons vers une RC4 corrigeant les gros bugs (bloquants), en laissant les petits problèmes d'affichage et autres détails pour la finale, afin de ne pas vous pénaliser.

 

Ca arrive très bientôt donc

 

In English (sorry for any mistakes) :

We are going to a RC4 fixing the biggest bugs (blocking), leaving small display glitches and other details for the final version, in order not to penalize you.

 

It's coming really soon.

 

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Milhouse this just is not good enough. If they wish for PS to be the widest used e-commerce solution then they cannot afford to ignore the wider community.

 

This thread has now been active for 9days and not a single reply from an official source. If I ran my business like this then it would be dead and gone already.  By that I mean if I posted items to people in the UK the next working day but left parcels to the EU for 10 working days then I might as well forget any further orders from outside the UK mainland.

 

I personally feel that the PS team are giving the English speaking community two fingers up!

 

PS are at risk of loosing a massive audience through shear.....dare I say it......laziness.....damn I said it  ;)

 

Joking aside in my opinion this whole facade its unacceptable. I just hope that PS sort themselves out before someone else can offer another open source project with a more committed team.

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Do you have the version that has all the major bugs fixed available for download? If so, I'd like to download it please.

Thanks...
-sciencefare

Actually, my front office is working nicelly, but the back office is very buggy. I have to save two times my products to get them saved. And I am not talking about categories and descriptions of products. RC2 was much better about this, but there were no multilingual support. RC3 did bring it.

So my guess is : wait for RC4, it must be around very soon, or use RC 2 for populating database... if you found the package somewhere.
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