mozack Posted March 17, 2013 Share Posted March 17, 2013 Hi to all of you... I'm writing today to show you the improvements that PrestaShop must have in the future, but also, to express myself about a system that i use, i tell the others to use, but i have serious problems with... For a long time (since version 1.1 of PrestaShop) i'm using this system that grown up as e-commerce system but is missing a lot of things out there... My last webshop made in PrestaShop i was thinking that i should really improve the checkout process, the way products are displayed and make a good changes in the system using the nice feature called overrides... Ok, most of my code is working as expected. Some bugs, errors and other things that i'm working for the last 2 months in one personal domain redirected to my home machine, to resolve and make working even better... But, after this 2 months i start editing my checkout process and is a nightmare. Why you, PrestaShop, insists in using this PayPal module???? Did you check out the OpenCart module? or a nice 1-file Interspire Module that works like a charm? Why remove the banner url from PayPal? That was a nice feature... Well my disappointment goes to one must-have module that simply doesn't work as expected. My 1.4.9 PrestaShop store have a lot of errors with PayPal module that i cant resolve. First was missing the admin hook, after, error in payment, and another one, and another... I'm missing sales! Trying to separate the shopping cart from express checkout PayPal dont work because it get the values from shopping-cart table, why? It shouldn't work like that... Why not see the Apple checkout page, zappos and too many others, did you ever see a checkout page as PrestaShop offers? Sometimes user dont know that have to scroll down the page to fill out the form and checkout because shopping cart is there taking the whole user screen.... So, improving the checkout process, i create a new page to form only, but as expected, PayPal dont work... I saw the code and thought, well, in the second page, i put there the shopping cart (again) and put a classe hidden to hide to screen.... Ok, it works... But maybe it isn't the better way to do that... One-page checkout is a nice feature, but is it done right? Of course not... In the payment methods it should be as choose a carrier, with input buttons and one at the end telling to finalize the order... But customer click on payment method thinking that is only choosing and when pay attention to screen they are in PayPal website... It shouldn't work like that... It must be there something like input button to choose and a submit button to submit the order... I think the PrestaShop problem is the most important part of all e-commerce websites... the checkout... Well, as i cant even, override the paypal views, i need to edit manually the module core files to make it work but... it dont work! Hope a really simply solution without APIs or nothing like that... The most simplest things are the ones that works! Have a nice day! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guest* Posted March 17, 2013 Share Posted March 17, 2013 ??? Hi Mozack, paypal isn't yet a part of Prestashop core. It is a partner module which you can download for free at the addons-site. If Paypal-Module is making several problems to you, so simply don't use it. There are several new payment modules coming with prestashop default download package. Paypal is not one of them. In the German Forum we have an adapted Paypal-Module. With overrides it is not possible, but you can edit the files and they work fine. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guest* Posted March 17, 2013 Share Posted March 17, 2013 If you are having problems with errors or suggestions for to have this module improved, you can add them here: http://www.prestashop.com/forums/index.php?/forum/152-paypal/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mozack Posted March 17, 2013 Author Share Posted March 17, 2013 Hi, Thanks for your reply. Well, the module PayPal isn't developed by PrestaShop team? Is a question of money only... But if it is developed by Presta Team, it shoulb me more powerful and more integrable... Dont you agree? Thanks Mozack Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Radu Posted March 17, 2013 Share Posted March 17, 2013 For me it makes sense what mozack is saying about the ckecout process, is indeed not very user friendly. I agree someone can change it, adapt it for their own needs, but by default for the merchants that are not familiar with coding the process is not possible. I am sure in the near future things will get better and better On the other side my personal problem is the override system, it's simply not working for multiple modules. Other systems like word-press not to mention competitors have hooks (presta has this too) but divided clearly in action and filter hooks which allows ANY module to work and override core functionality without the fear that somebody will install a new module that overwrites your own module previous overrides. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mozack Posted March 17, 2013 Author Share Posted March 17, 2013 Hi, I'm trying focus in PayPal that is the payment module most used by PrestaShop store owners. If everybody uses that why not improve this module to best integration as possible? Note: I've other stores, based in other systems and i can tell you, for sure, that they use the standard paypal checkout like the form, with banner customization, and works so great... Interspire, for example, uses 1-file only to make the PayPal payment to work... The one-page checkout is a nightmare in PrestaShop.... See the open cart checkout tabbed, like Interspire, this is most commun to help user going through. Why is shopping cart in same page that the form? If we install a module that hooks shopping cart, user is not able to see the form or even a button telling to scroll down the page, that is wrong. I'm working in the checkout page and made some changes in OrderOpcController that add a ?step=2 to the cart. In first page just shopping cart in the ?step=2 the form, but i was forced to change lot of things to make this to work with PayPal because the module get values from shopping-cart.tpl table... This is not right. Module must work as standalone, getting data from cookies, using the Cart feature, etc... I'm expecting much more than i have in prestashop 1.5. I think that for PrestaShop survive to other competitors, they must pay attention to usability. Just my opinion that i was trying to share with you. I'm not an experienced programmer or even a billionaire that can pay to make my own system, otherwise i was not using PrestaShop. But i wake up every day at 6am to study about e-commerce, to search about best practices and i learn a lot checking the big stores e-commerce websites. Do you think you have a user-friendly webstore? show me! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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