Guest Posted November 16, 2012 Share Posted November 16, 2012 How to search engines see / regard multi-stores using Prestashop 1.5? If we have a product called "Product1" and that is in shop 1 and shop 2 Does google look at that and think "hmmmm multiple attempts to raise ratings" and drop the page down the rankings? Google generally says that it downgrades a site if it thinks there is a deliberate attempt to influence ranking by having multiple pages with exactly the same information Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 18, 2012 Share Posted November 18, 2012 Also Just generated the sitemaps and i noticed that three were generated One for each store and one that just points to the other two store sitemaps Do I need to send ALL of them to google, or just the one that points to the other two - Confused Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 19, 2012 Share Posted November 19, 2012 Anyone? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Patron Posted November 19, 2012 Share Posted November 19, 2012 (edited) if you use two or more gTLD's...then it's duplicate content.... if you use one gTLD and one or more ccT:LD's it is not considered duplicate content.... Edited November 19, 2012 by elpatron (see edit history) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 19, 2012 Share Posted November 19, 2012 Thanks for the reply But please forgive this simpleton for asking for some clarification Can I take it that gTLD's are domain names? So, if I use exactly the same page contact (product info) on www.domain.com/product1 and www.domain.com/othersite/product1 that is fine but if I use www.domain.com/product1 and www.mydomain/product1 that is no good? Also, what about the sitemaps, do I just submit the one that points to the others? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Patron Posted November 20, 2012 Share Posted November 20, 2012 Read this: don't stop after the first paragraph thinking it doesn't pertain to you..read the entire thing http://support.google.com/webmasters/bin/answer.py?hl=en&answer=182192 gTLD's .com .co .biz .org etc. ccTLD fr.somedomain.co for somedomain.fr as for sitemaps...if there are multiple sitemaps.;..ie.. one for each domain..then submit each one individually within your google webmast\er tools... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 20, 2012 Share Posted November 20, 2012 Thanks again. I think I understand that, but most is about multilanguage or geotargetting. Our situation is slightly different in that we are targetting the same people in the same language. On one URL we have the product and price for a single item, on the second URL we have the exact same product, just a different price (20% discount because of wholesale) I think the pertinent paragraph in the above link is "Websites that provide content for different regions and in different languages sometimes create content that is the same or similar but available on different URLs. This is generally not a problem as long as the content is for different users in different countries. While we strongly recommend that you provide unique content for each different group of users, we understand that this may not always be possible. There is generally no need to "hide" the duplicates by disallowing crawling in a robots.txt file or by using a"noindex" robots meta tag. However, if you're providing the same content to the same users on different URLs (for instance, if both example.de/ and example.com/de/ show German language content for users in Germany), you should pick a preferred version and redirect (or use the rel=canonical link element) appropriately. In addition, you should follow the guidelines on rel-alternate-hreflang to make sure that the correct language or regional URL is served to searchers." So then the question will be, does Prestashop do that in multishop set up where it creates the new URL - or are we all set for a fall unless we know how to configure things Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Patron Posted November 20, 2012 Share Posted November 20, 2012 you must obtain and configure your own gTLD/ccTLD\s ps will not do this for you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 20, 2012 Share Posted November 20, 2012 So, excuse me for appearing a bit slow, What you are suggesting is that if we all use prestashop 1.5 to create multiple stores using prestashop's recommendation of letting it create the URL then in fact we could all get a massive hit from google who will reduce our page rankings (or worse) because we have multiple copies of the same information? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Patron Posted November 20, 2012 Share Posted November 20, 2012 Hi, I am running our in-house developer multishop and I have not set up a true 'multishop' in 1.5. And I don't think you are a bit slow...I've just been doing this for a little longer. You can however (this is my understanding) have different URL's for each shop, for example: www.etiendas.co www.etiendas.co.de fr.etiendas.co see here: http://doc.prestashop.com/display/PS15/Managing+multiple+shops#Managingmultipleshops-Settingashop%27sURL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3mp3ri0r Posted May 17, 2014 Share Posted May 17, 2014 Read this: don't stop after the first paragraph thinking it doesn't pertain to you..read the entire thing http://support.google.com/webmasters/bin/answer.py?hl=en&answer=182192 gTLD's .com .co .biz .org etc. ccTLD fr.somedomain.co for somedomain.fr as for sitemaps...if there are multiple sitemaps.;..ie.. one for each domain..then submit each one individually within your google webmast\er tools... Hi el patron. How about when I want to make a multiple shop for different country but have 2 languages. One is the country language and the other is english? For the example I used id.example.com/id/ and id.example.com/en/ for indonesia as a country and 2 languages. In the other hand I also used my.example.com/my/ and my.example.com/en/ for malaysian. Is it detect by google as duplicate for english language? Thanks before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Patron Posted May 17, 2014 Share Posted May 17, 2014 Hi el patron. How about when I want to make a multiple shop for different country but have 2 languages. One is the country language and the other is english? For the example I used id.example.com/id/ and id.example.com/en/ for indonesia as a country and 2 languages. In the other hand I also used my.example.com/my/ and my.example.com/en/ for malaysian. Is it detect by google as duplicate for english language? Thanks before. that is no problem for SEO, so there would be no need to 'hide' a language that was not pertinent to that country, i.e ccTLD .de with German but also English without any duplicate content penalty. It treats the .de as a stand alone from any other url. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3mp3ri0r Posted May 17, 2014 Share Posted May 17, 2014 that is no problem for SEO, so there would be no need to 'hide' a language that was not pertinent to that country, i.e ccTLD .de with German but also English without any duplicate content penalty. It treats the .de as a stand alone from any other url. Thanks for your help El Patron. Just make it clear, so it's ok to have same languages for different country that separate by subdomain like id.example.com and my.example.com? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Patron Posted May 17, 2014 Share Posted May 17, 2014 Thanks for your help El Patron. Just make it clear, so it's ok to have same languages for different country that separate by subdomain like id.example.com and my.example.com? yes, using sub domain ccTLD will work. mx.etiendas.co nl.etiendas.co this is 'much' easier for some ccTLD's because even if you can buy a url, nl for example, they 'the man' makes you use two IP addresses, well some hosting not sell any additional ip's...sucks and if your shop has Italian and mx.etiendas.co someone at in Mexico searches in Italian, you are sure to be top ranked. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3mp3ri0r Posted May 18, 2014 Share Posted May 18, 2014 yes, using sub domain ccTLD will work. mx.etiendas.co nl.etiendas.co this is 'much' easier for some ccTLD's because even if you can buy a url, nl for example, they 'the man' makes you use two IP addresses, well some hosting not sell any additional ip's...sucks and if your shop has Italian and mx.etiendas.co someone at in Mexico searches in Italian, you are sure to be top ranked. Thanks El Patron. You rock. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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