Great Job being done by the Development Team! So can any one else help with a small problem?

[Paul-rr]

I have been watching these forums and the PrestaShop SVN for several days and I know by the updates (almost every day) that the development team is doing a lot of work. I wish I had observed the osCommerce team being as active. But I believe that PrestaShop is far ahead of osCommerce in being a production ready cart. So if anyone could help me with one small obstacle, I would be forever grateful. The most important problem I can't seem to resolve on my own is the Customer Checkout. It refuses to complete. Everything seems OK till you press the "I confirm my order" button and I get the message "Order creation failed". The purchased goods stay in the cart but no order confirmation of any kind. I have had the same results from the first release of 1.1 to SVN 730 (from this morning). I have read I think every message posted in the last couple of weeks and have checked everything anyone has mentioned that would keep PrestaShop from functioning properly. I paid special attention to posts that related to using IIs Web Servers. I am using my Web Server running Windows 2003 R2, PHP 5.2.8 and My SQL 5.1.31 for Win32. I checked all error logs and with the exception of several CSS errors shown using Fire Bug there is noting else to indicate any thing is wrong. Also just encase anyone is wondering I have set the attributes of all files and folders requested, including the Windows temp directory for PHP to have access to. Every install I tried got a new SQL Database, deleted every file in the PrestaStore directory and used the complete install with the test data. So if you are running on Windows server 2003 and IIS 6 and the checkout works for you I would be very much interested in hearing from you. Hope I did not break any more forum rules with this post. :-)

Thanks for your help and time required to reading this rather lengthy post.

Paul-RR :coolsmile:

[TropischBruin]

I have been watching these forums and the PrestaShop SVN for several days and I know by the updates (almost every day) that the development team is doing a lot of work. I wish I had observed the osCommerce team being as active. But I believe that PrestaShop is far ahead of osCommerce in being a production ready cart.

I supose you are talking about osCommerce version 3?

Both PS and osC 3 are not ready for large production envirements.
Compaired to osC 2, osC2 wins, maybe not if you look at the Templating part but the template-engine used for PS is not that easy.
Yes, the code used in osC 2 is "outdated", but hee, it was build about 6 years ago.

[Paul-rr]

On the osCommerce it is version 3 I was referring to. And just to reiterate on how much work the Development Team is doing I just got through installing SVN 748 and that is up from just a couple of days ago SVN 730. I am sure several problems have been addressed but customers on my test site still can't check out. Still could use some incite or help from anyone with the same hardware and software I am using having the same problem.

Paul-RR

[TropischBruin]

Why would you use the SVN version as this is not for production use and it is clear the even the Stable release is not usable/suitable for many.

To build a webshop based on this knowledge is rather "stuppid", no-offense.

It could be that the dev-team is working hard, but what they should do is make sure they get a stable release out first.
But it is clear that they have another agenda then the common users here on these forums.

osCommerce may be outdated but I rather have that then something that just is not working at all + no user and dev-team support base!

[Paul-rr]

Why would you use the SVN version as this is not for production use and it is clear the even the Stable release is not usable/suitable for many.

To build a webshop based on this knowledge is rather "stuppid", no-offense.

It could be that the dev-team is working hard, but what they should do is make sure they get a stable release out first.
But it is clear that they have another agenda then the common users here on these forums.

osCommerce may be outdated but I rather have that then something that just is not working at all + no user and dev-team support base!

I use the SVN for what it was intended. If you had read my response the SVN was used for testing. And "Stupid" has one "P", no-offence. But I do agree that if you don't speak French you don't seem to get much help or advise. But I figured I can do what a beta tester should do and that is to find and point out problems. If you don't use the latest SVN you can't be sure you are reporting on the latest problems. And if you were trying to say that osCommerce has a better support team, I haven't seen it. At least not as far as ver. 3 goes. But rather than bash I will just keep trying what is available and reporting on what I find.

Paul-RR

[TropischBruin]

Why would you use the SVN version as this is not for production use and it is clear the even the Stable release is not usable/suitable for many.

To build a webshop based on this knowledge is rather "stuppid", no-offense.

It could be that the dev-team is working hard, but what they should do is make sure they get a stable release out first.
But it is clear that they have another agenda then the common users here on these forums.

osCommerce may be outdated but I rather have that then something that just is not working at all + no user and dev-team support base!

I use the SVN for what it was intended. If you had read my response the SVN was used for testing. And "Stupid" has one "P", no-offence. But I do agree that if you don't speak French you don't seem to get much help or advise. But I figured I can do what a beta tester should do and that is to find and point out problems. If you don't use the latest SVN you can't be sure you are reporting on the latest problems. And if you were trying to say that osCommerce has a better support team, I haven't seen it. At least not as far as ver. 3 goes. But rather than bash I will just keep trying what is available and reporting on what I find.

Paul-RR

That is SVN is for beta-testing, we all know that. I'm just saying that is is not useable for production/live shops.
I'm also beta-testing the SVN but there seems to be no end on the old and new bugs in it.
I stopped adding bugs to the bug-rapport becasue no one ever responce to them or here to the forum.
I've been testing for 3 months with no responce from any of the team on my questions, others stopt as well because their help was ignored by the dev-team. You will get disapointed as well my friend.
If the dev-team ever change their way and get of there high horse I will be the first to get back on support.

And for osCommerce support; have a look at all the forums, so many users and free-coders given there time and effort in contributing the 2.2 and new 3 release because there is a lot of knowledge AND documentation on HOW the system works. That compaired to PS where there is none.

[Paul-rr]

I know what you are saying. I placed what I thought would be a fairly detailed bug report (making it easier to use) and was told to only place one bug at a time in the bug system. So I did and used the selections that I was "instructed" could be put in. Then I was told one of my entries was one I was told was not a bug when clearly it was not in their list. Anyway as of yet none were answered as of yet. And yes there seems to be a total lack of documentation. I retired from a programmer annalist position after 25 years and our problem was the same. Programmers that wanted to keep their job security were the worst about documenting their work. I have seen very little code documenting in either osCommerce or PrestaShop. It would make either system a lot easier for others to contribute to the work. I don't know about anyone else but I could not work on my own projects without documentation. So since it is not in the individual files I would surmise it is kept in another set of files we don't have access to, or it is stripped out prior to release, but we should have access to. No one could keep up with a project the size of these with it. So much for true open source. I use to write a lot of assembler and without at least decent comments it could be released without worry of modification by anyone not wanting to put a lot of time into it. The point I think is, the "TEAM" does not want any help or if they did they would release the code comments too. :coolsmile:

Paul-rr