guest* Posted February 4, 2012 Share Posted February 4, 2012 It seems that more and more prestashop is going to be an expert software not running on each webspace. I have some users trying the latest 1.5.0.3. on their webspaces (memory_limit 64M as recommended) and the software is not running. It does not install and when installed successfully, BO not manageable. Tabs empty (white pages without function), login not possible... Is Prestashop developing towards "little Magento brother". If yes, so it will loose many customers. Specially in the German Market for which the spirit is: "avarice is cool". The cheapiest is the best, small webpackages for small prices - on which prestashop already in version 1.5x is not running without problems regarding this. Do some other users supporting users or customers having the same problem ? For myself I have no problems, but my webspace has 15 TB, 526M memory_limit and 56KB for http-headers.This is one of the biggest vHost package yo can have. More only as a dedicated server. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard S Posted February 5, 2012 Share Posted February 5, 2012 I think PrestaShop is going for a Magento like system, however I do not like Magento because of the hard to understand structure and very strange catalog structure there. PrestaShop is a more convenient and more easily developed tool for any shop with lots of functionality because of the PHP OOP and MVC structures used here. In any case I think that normal ecommerce solution should have a reliable and high quality hosting for security too, so users should not rely on cheap shared hosting providers. However, I do agree that performance should be a priority in development of a ecommerce solution and that the creators should not ignore this. For example, WordPress as a CMS is also growing and if you install a translation pack it will not get far to use up to 64 or even 128 Mb of RAM. PrestaShop is doing good for now, but there also might be some problems like that in the future as it gets bigger and wider used. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
infoseek Posted February 5, 2012 Share Posted February 5, 2012 I'm just a common user, the speed of the 1.5.03 version is much slower than 1.4 and 1.3 such! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard S Posted February 5, 2012 Share Posted February 5, 2012 We do not need to forget that it is still in development. I have seen so much difference when comparing 1.4 and 1.5 in speed. I think it also depends on your server configuration. However, the need of RAM is a little bigger. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guest* Posted February 5, 2012 Author Share Posted February 5, 2012 Hi, I'm not talking about speed. I'm talking on installation of Prestashop with samples. On some of German webspaces Prestashop 1.5. ist not running, it seems to need much more server ressources at all. With small webspace packages of 5-10 euros/month the Version 1.5.x ist not running, also not 1.4. without any problems on memory_limit. Prestashop was recommending here 64M. For version 1.3. it was good. For version 1.4. we are needing at least 128M to don't have problems. Version 1.5. ist not running with small shops (tests) and 128M. All the same problem (login not possible, tabs with high data like products, customer and orders not able to filter = 500-site script premature ending. Tab modules white page. All these problems are related to memory_limit, if you increase the memory, so the problems disappear. BUT small webspaces do not have this capacities. Not in here... The speed is than secondary, when your BO is broken and does not work... Nobody having the same issues ? Concerning Magento. I don't like Magento is too complicated, besides it too does not run on "normal" webspaces and need special webspaces to have a good performance. I hope Prestashop is not going to follow this way. It will loose a great of the new customers on German Community. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raphaël Malié Posted February 7, 2012 Share Posted February 7, 2012 Hello, don't worry PrestaShop won't be a Magento like (we will never implement EAV model, the worst technical idea ever ). When we developp we always think of easyness for users. It's hard to add new features without loosing the user-friendly side, but we work on it. For the 1.5 version, don't forget this is still under development. We have a unix-like philosophy : make it work, make it right, make it fast. So when everything will be ok with no more huge bug or issues, we will make it fast, trying to run it on low configuration server with few memory, making benchmark between 1.4 & 1.5, etc.. Regards 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pippo3000 Posted February 7, 2012 Share Posted February 7, 2012 merci, raphael. sounds promising Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OC2PS Posted February 7, 2012 Share Posted February 7, 2012 make it work, make it right, make it fast Amen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guest* Posted February 9, 2012 Author Share Posted February 9, 2012 Amen Amen to Amen... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OC2PS Posted March 6, 2012 Share Posted March 6, 2012 make it work, make it right, make it fast Which stage are you at with 1.5, Raphaël? :-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raphaël Malié Posted March 12, 2012 Share Posted March 12, 2012 I am currently working on the fast process Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mexique1 Posted March 15, 2012 Share Posted March 15, 2012 we will never implement EAV model, the worst technical idea ever Come on, the attributes/features data model (and others) are EAV... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raphaël Malié Posted March 15, 2012 Share Posted March 15, 2012 Of course you need some time to do EAV with dynamic fields (attributes for PrestaShop, custom fields for forums, etc.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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