What happen with forum theme?

[Kerm]

Where is standard Prestashop theme? I see blue crap now...

[phrasespot]

yep changed again. Webarrhea 2.0. Slow... Info that used to fit in a single screen scrolls 2-3 screens now. Not possible to display any post except new posts. Custom post filters don't work. Works somehow better w/o JavaScript but missing most functionality.. Thumbs down overall.

[Patric]

Hi,

 

Sorry for the inconvenience. :/

 

We updated the forum software today and encountered important problems with our existing PrestaShop theme.

So we will have to make important modifications to make it compatible.

This is the reason why we temporarily use the default theme.

 

Thank you for your comprehension and patience.

[Lindsayanng]

Hey guys... Install firefox - this theme works flawlessly on it..

[phrasespot]

Not for me. JavaScript errors left, right and centre. Totally unusable.

[PrestaSupport]

Also it is not working 100%

Cannot edit post that i just have put to the forum "Save changes" button with no reaction at all

 

A bug

[Carl Favre]

Hello,

Indeed there are quite a few problems, we are making everyting to bring back our theme and to fix these bugs.

[Omega]

^{Problem editing my profile page. Unable to upload avatar and links all over the place. Every confidence it will be fixed}

[Kerm]

I still have alot problems with forum.

[phrasespot]

profile pages messed up, content page cuts on the right side due to folding of header row, bring back non-js login, someone please fix this forum. Immediately following a site hack, all this does not instill much trust.

[Mike Kranzler]

Hi everybody,

Our forum software provider's newest update caused some issues to our theme here on the PrestaShop forums, so we have been making changes to adapt it back for our uses. A lot of these issues you're reporting are directly related to this update, so we're working hard to fix it in order to provide you with the best forum experience possible, including a much improved search function. We do hear your concerns, and I hope to have more information for you soon!

 

-Mike

[Kerm]

Your team don't do backup's before chance or update? why not downgrade to old version? And only after made full functionally theme on test server update this one...

[Kerm]

It's just a good offer, that's all. Thanks for your job and answers.

[Mike Kranzler]

Hi Kerm,

We're using this as an opportunity to make a lot of the changes to the forum that everyone has been asking for. Hopefully I'll be able to give you a full rundown on the improvements soon!

 

-Mike

[OC2PS]

Hope you move to phpbb, smf or bbpress soon.

[Kerm]

Hi Mike!

When forum will be full functionality? I still see alot things that not work or disapear...how people can create e-shop but can't fix forum problems so much time..May be need find good programmer that fix all problems..

[Mike Kranzler]

Hi everybody,

We've worked hard to fix the key issues here on the PrestaShop forums, so hopefully we've managed to address your biggest concerns. Check it out and let me know!

 

-Mike

[phrasespot]

profile pages "Community Stats" words running into each other. "Choose your language:" at the bottom of the page does not do anything (as is in this page).

[Mike Kranzler]

Hi phrasespot,

Thanks for your input. Now that we've fixed the major issues, we've turned our attention towards the types of issues you pointed out above.

 

-Mike

[phrasespot]

There are some invisible URLs throughout (e.g. Profile > User Tools > Display name history). It is due to the following rule in one of the style files

 

 

.general_box a {
color: #FFFFFF;
...
}

 

Also when writing a post "Post Options" take too much space beside the editor, could it be maybe made narrower?

[CraigMeade]

Compared with the spam that has exploded all over us, this forum format is a dream.

[jhnstcks]

Compared with the spam that has exploded all over us, this forum format is a dream.

I can only stop the spam on the English forums everywhere else is down to their own moderators. When the bots are posting 50 spam messages in 30 minutes while I pop to tesco its getting harder and harder to try and stop them. Although at the moment they are still posting, only admin/moderators can see the posts.

[phrasespot]

When the bots are posting 50 spam messages in 30 minutes while I pop to tesco its getting harder and harder to try and stop them.

Evil pests A couple of things come to mind to stop/slow down/discourage spammers:

- A grace period/post count to create a new thread for new registrations.

- A "this is spam" button for each post, where there is more than x vote, the post is removed from the view automatically

- A registration form that changes every x number of registrations

 

It seems like the spam posts increased since updating the forum, IDK.

[jhnstcks]

On the old forum there was some kind of automatic spam detection software in place that stopped spam being posted, but since the forum was changed it seems that it isnt active on this forum.

[Carl Favre]

Hi jhnstcks, phrasespot,

 

There is some kind of automatic spam detection, but it is not working that great.

 

We are looking for solutions to stop it or at least decrease it to a reasonable level.

 

We have also noted the "invisible" link problem.

 

About the "post options" gap, could you post a picture of your problem?

 

Thanks.

 

Carl

[jhnstcks]

Hi Carl,

 

Theres one very good way of stop spambots....have a hidden field on the registration page that HAS to be left blank, as it is hidden human users will never fill it. But bots will see the field and fill it, and therefore the post won't be validated and will be regected. Its called a honeypot field.

 

I seem to get the impression that you guys have a separate developing company doing the forum, if you do, they need a kick up the backside as the forum has been a mess for a month now.

[phrasespot]

About the "post options" gap, could you post a picture of your problem?

It is the space the "Post Options" take rather than a gap. If this section was below the editor or even made narrower, so a larger area for the editor is available.

[Carl Favre]

jhnstcks : Thanks for the idea. We are going to check it.

 

Phrasespot : Ok I see what you mean.

[MrBaseball34]

Hi Carl,

 

Theres one very good way of stop spambots....have a hidden field on the registration page that HAS to be left blank, as it is hidden human users will never fill it. But bots will see the field and fill it, and therefore the post won't be validated and will be regected. Its called a honeypot field.

 

I seem to get the impression that you guys have a separate developing company doing the forum, if you do, they need a kick up the backside as the forum has been a mess for a month now.

 

I did that with a comment form on a site once. Caught 100% totally!!! Not very hard to implement, either. However, the spammers are getting smarter and can see that kind of technique and defeat it as well.

 

I suggested that they use this for registrations: http://www.phpbb.com/community/viewtopic.php?f=69&t=1795905

(screenshot: http://img.skitch.com/20091003-j4tnkremwx9pn13idhs4g5byk2.jpg)

[phrasespot]

Messenger in profile borks when there is a long conversation thread (pager location)

[Mike Kranzler]

Hi phrasespot,

Thanks for pointing this out, I'm going to take a look at this for you.

 

-Mike

[phrasespot]

Leads to blank page

 

[Patric]

Leads to blank page

 

 

Hi phrasespot,

 

Do you still encounter this problem?

I cannot reproduce it.

Thanks.

[phrasespot]

Yes, I do. e.g. click on username from the top this page, menu opens, click on Manage Ignore Prefs from the menu, a request to [1] is made and server responses

 

500 Internal server error
Date: Mon, 10 Oct 2011 15:49:13 GMT
Server: Apache
X-Powered-By: PHP/5.3.8
Expires: Thu, 19 Nov 1981 08:52:00 GMT
Cache-Control: no-store, no-cache, must-revalidate, post-check=0, pre-check=0
Pragma: no-cache
Set-Cookie: pass_hash=...
session_id=...
Vary: Accept-Encoding
Content-Encoding: gzip
Content-Length: 20
Content-Type: text/html

 

 

[1] http://www.prestasho...ea=ignoredusers

[Patric]

Messenger in profile borks when there is a long conversation thread (pager location)

 

Hi phrasespot,

 

We also cannot reproduce that bug.

Sarah should have fixed it few days ago, before you posted it here.

 

We just made another try with a long, 2 pages, conversation but everything was good.

 

Could you please make another try ?

 

Thanks.

 

[Patric]

Yes, I do. e.g. click on username from the top this page, menu opens, click on Manage Ignore Prefs from the menu, a request to [1] is made and server responses

 

500 Internal server error
Date: Mon, 10 Oct 2011 15:49:13 GMT
Server: Apache
X-Powered-By: PHP/5.3.8
Expires: Thu, 19 Nov 1981 08:52:00 GMT
Cache-Control: no-store, no-cache, must-revalidate, post-check=0, pre-check=0
Pragma: no-cache
Set-Cookie: pass_hash=...
session_id=...
Vary: Accept-Encoding
Content-Encoding: gzip
Content-Length: 20
Content-Type: text/html

 

 

[1] http://www.prestasho...ea=ignoredusers

 

Could not reproduce it either. Even with a "normal" account.

The server answers the "200" code.

Did you try from another browser/computer?

Does somebody else have this problem ?

Thanks.

 

 

EDIT : OK, this is when you try to add an entry to the ignore list that the error occurs, not when you simply try to access this page.

I report that bug. Thanks.

 

EDIT2 : In fact, it now happens when I simply try to access to the page... :/

[phrasespot]

I get a blank page when I try to see this and this post in Conf & Using PS forum

[jhnstcks]

Looks like the spam filter is assuming those posts are spam.

 

Another bug, on the members list, the members name is the same colour as the background, so its invisible.

[phrasespot]

Looks like the spam filter is assuming those posts are spam.

heh... while all other real spam is displayed prominently throughout the forums. some spam filter.

[Mike Kranzler]

heh... while all other real spam is displayed prominently throughout the forums. some spam filter.

 

Hi phrasespot,

We actually have made some major changes to the spam filter over the last few weeks. Are you still seeing spam at a similar rate as previously? Because right now, we've noticed a major drop-off, and have started focusing on catching human spammers/link-builders. Please let me know, we're always interested in your input!

 

-Mike

[phrasespot]

Weekends seems to be bad, possibly because all moderators have a life More concerning is the false positives, while many spam seem to pass the filters. Since it is very difficult to stop human generated spam, why not implement a "this is spam" button, say after 5-6 members mark it as spam, removing it from the circulation until a mod can look at it. That said, it is a minor annoyance. Better if the time is spent on 1.5

[Mike Kranzler]

Agreed on all points. However, was this past weekend better than usual? The changes we've made should have made a difference over the past week or so.

 

-Mike

[phrasespot]

was this past weekend better than usual?

I wasn't measuring but....yeah, definitely better than previous week, but than again spammers may be on holiday too

[jhnstcks]

Mike a lot of the spam is happening on forums that don't have very active moderators i.e. chinese, japanese and I think Sweden. On the old forum I was able to delete posts from the forum page even though I had no moderator privileges. The spam Phrasespot posted above is in one of these forums.

 

Also when spammers post in these forums there is nothing I can do to stop them as I can't ban members unless they post on the English forums. As I have mentioned before Moderators should be able to ban members from their profile page, and not only from the message page.

[Mike Kranzler]

Hi John,

Thanks for passing that on. Could you link me to a few posts in those languages? I'll be sure to bring it up to our devs who created these new spam filters to see what we can do in this situation. Unfortunately, I have no input on the ban abilities of moderators, although I think our team may be a little wary of giving non-PrestaShop employees that power (we've had issues with mods in the past, and that could add fuel to the flames if not monitored properly).

 

-Mike

[jhnstcks]

MIke the spam posts have gone now, as they have been deleted when the member was banned. The messages weren't in a foreign language, they were in English, just in that forum.

 

I already have the ability to ban members, but only ones that post in the English forum.

[Mike Kranzler]

I see. I'll be sure to pass this along to our forum devs, but in the meantime please feel free to message me directly about anyone in the non-English forums who need banning, and I'll be sure to take care of it for you.

 

-Mike